Which Raven Model? (& Max Load Chart)

[stutho]

** Warning this is MY interpretation, not SJSC's – they know better  **

Before reading through this table I should point out that the Ravens are very versatile and can be set up in a number of ways. This table is only designed to give a pointer in the right direction, final setup is all-important.



Rankings are:

7 = Highly Specialist (therefore not an all-rounder)
6 = Somewhat Specialist
5 = Highly Suitable
4 = Good Suitability
3 = Average Suitability
2 = Usable
1 = Not designed for environment

All the Ravens are a high quality bikes. I designed this table to differentiate between the Raven models, not to rank a Raven against any other bikes. I have tried to use the Raven Tour as the base line - a good all rounder.

Max Luggage: Please note that rider weight and especially road surface should be taken into account in calculating your maximum allowance.

I am open to comments, suggestions and corrections!

** Warning this is MY interpretation, not SJSC's – they know better **

[stutho]

Sorry I cant get the table to align properly. Anyone know now to embed a table in the post?

[Fred A-M]

Out of interest Stuart, where did you get the 18Kg figure for the RST from?  I'd always thought it was 15kg and so would be happy to learn otherwise!

[stutho]

Actually we are both wrong! It's 12kg rear and 5kg front. (17kg)
Thanks for making me check Fred - I will updated the table.

[julk]

Stuart,
Regarding formatting/displaying a table in a post - I can think of 2 options :-

1. Request/persuade Forum Admin to activate table features of HTML in the Forum Code.
A point to consider is how good is your HTML?

2. Build the table in another application, e.g. word processor/spreadsheet and take a picture of it.
Post the table picture on a publicly accessible photo site and use the
[img] internet address of table picture [/img***] feature to include the table in your post.

Please note the end of image address tag should be /img with square brackets [ ] round it,
i.e. [/img***] is wrong,
I included *** to make it show the tag text in this post, without the *** most of my post turns into a missing image!

This latter [img] technique definitely works in the Members Gallery to show pictures of bikes.

[stutho]

Thanks Julk,

Those are the same options that I came up with.

I was thinking of taking a screen shot and then photo editing etc.  My HTML only extends as far as knowing it stands for, now if it were 'C' I would be sorted - I write embedded code for a living!  I keep meaning to design a small web page but I never seam to get around to it.

Thanks again

Stuart

[Fred A-M]

Looks very clear, SJS would do well to adopt something similar on their site IMO under the same banner: it could/would eliminate a lot of uncertainty at a glance amongst (most) prospective clients and doubtlessly prevent unnecesary aggro too!

[stutho]

Thanks Fred

Do you think I have got the suitability ranking about right?

[Swislon]

Hi Stuart,

RST = Fast touring for me.

What do the numbers mean 5+ for eg? Is it suitability with 5 meaning extremely suitable for this application.

Steve

[stutho]

Hi Swislon,

I have rated each of the Ravens in 3 environments.  On road, unsealed roads - where stability is more important than agility and off road where the opposite is true.
rankings are:

5+ =Highly suitable (Best in class)
5  = Highly suitable (designed especially for this environment)
4  = good suitability
3  = average
2  = usable
1  = not designed for environment

All the Ravens are a high quality bikes.  I designed this table to differentiate between the Raven models, not to rank a Raven against any other bikes.  I have tried to use the Raven Tour as the base line - a good all rounder.

Let me know if you think the ranking are out on any bike.

[Swislon]

Hi Stuart,

My comment was more that rather than "Touring" I would describe the role of the RST as Fast Touring. The Raven as Touring, Nomad as Adventure Touring, EXP as Extreme Adventure Touring etc.

Just my thoughts.

Steve

[stutho]

Hi Swislon,

I will adjust the table on Monday, I can't do it from this computer.  However I am only going to change the role of the RST. I think of the Raven Tour as far more rugged than a standard touring machine.  I also don't propose to add the EXP range to the list - Ravens only.  

[Swislon]

Hi Stuart,

You might want to change "Mounting" biking to "Mountain" before someone gets the wrong idea !![][]

Steve

[stutho]

Doh!
Thanks!

[lewisnoble]

Stutho - hello - a useful table.

Could you clarify why you regards the Touras more Adventure Touring than the Sport Tour - ruggedness / frame strength??  or geometry??  I understood that the Tour is only a little heavier than the RST.

Lewis